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Skepticism & the Keys to Success
The Sophists & Socrates

Skepticism and the Keys to Success

 

 

SKEPTICISM


Skepticism, the position that we don't have knowledge, was caused by:

1. The increase awareness of other cultures and their ideas

2. The decline in tradition, religion, and objective values

3. Disagreements among philosophers

4. Democracy
 

THE SOPHISTS

Skepticism in Action
 

PROTAGORAS
(About 490-420 BCE)

Protagoras by Plato


Life

He was the first of the Sophists.

Although he was an agnostic, he said, "concerning the gods I am unable to discover whether they exist, ... " he thought that religion served an important purpose.


Main Ideas

1.  We perceive the world indirectly.

2.  Perception, knowledge, truth, and values are subjective and relative.
     Objective knowledge is unattainable. (Skepticism)
     There are no objective values.
     Values are a matter of convention - not nature.

3.  "Man is the measure of all things ... ."  (relativism)

4.  The goal of life is success.
     True ideas are those that lead to success (pragmatism).

5.  The Sophists taught rhetoric.
     The goal of life and arguing is victory - not virtue or truth.
 

  
How do we interpret the word man?

Collaborate:

"Man is the measure of all things ...," could mean different things depending on how we interpret the word man. What do you think he meant?
 



GORGIAS
(483-375 BCE)
108 years old!

Gorgias by Plato

Main Ideas

1.     True knowledge is unattainable.
        His skepticism was caused by the paradoxes of Zeno.
        Reason, language, and perception are inadequate for knowledge.

2.     We're trapped in a subjective world of our experiences (solipsism).

 


 

ANTIPHON

1. We should reject traditions and laws, and satisfy our nature.

2. Our nature is to seek our own advantage - and self-preservation.

 



 


S O C R A T E S
Know Thyself
(From the temple of Apollo at Delphi)

(469–399 BCE)


 

Miles Burnyeat on Plato: Section 1
 

Life

1.    His mother was a midwife.
       He was referred as a midwife of ideas.

2.    He and his father were sculptors.

3.    He had a wife and three kids.

4.    His teacher was the Sophist Prodicus.

5.    Socrates taught Plato.
       Plato's early dialogues represent the real Socrates.

6.    Chaerephon asked the Oracle of Delphi who was the wisest
       Athenian, and she replied Socrates. 

4.    He was tried for corrupting the youth, and not believing in the Gods.

      At 70 years old he was executed by drinking hemlock.
      The Sophists lost their reputation because of Socrates.

Apology by Plato  |  Sophist by Plato
 

Philosophy

1.    Know thyself.

       Your soul is your true self.

       An excellent soul is wise, virtuous, and temperate.

2.    I know only that I know nothing. (Academic Skepticism)

3.    Virtue is knowledge.

       People pursue their own good.

       Being virtuous is our own good.

      To know the good is to do the good. 

4.    All things have an essence.

       Essences can be expressed in essential definitions.

       What is X? What is justice is asked in Republic by Plato,

       virtue is explored in Plato's Meno, temperance is in the Charmides, love is in the Symposium, friendship the Lysis. The Laches explores courage, and the Euthyphro discusses piety.

5.    The Socratic Contract Theory of State:

Readings 

The Socratic Contract Theory of State can be seen at work in Plato's dialog the Crito; Socrates refuses to escape from jail because the fact that he willingly remained in Athens, means that he accepted their laws. He cannot violate them when they are used against him.
 
 

CRITO: … But, oh! my beloved Socrates, let me entreat you once more to take my advice and escape. For if you die I shall not only lose a friend who can never be replaced, but there is another evil: people who do not know you and me will believe that I might have saved you if I had been willing to give money, but that I did not care. Now, can there be a worse disgrace than this - that I should be thought to value money more than the life of a friend? For the many will not be persuaded that I wanted you to escape, and that you refused.

SOCRATES: But why, my dear Crito, should we care about the opinion of the many? Good men, and they are the only persons who are worth considering, will think of these things truly as they occurred.

CRITO: But you see, Socrates, that the opinion of the many must be regarded, for what is now happening shows that they can do the greatest evil to anyone who has lost their good opinion.

SOCRATES: I only wish it were so, Crito, and that the many could do the greatest evil, for then they would also be able to do the greatest good, and what a fine thing this would be! But in reality they can do neither, for they cannot make a man either wise or foolish, and whatever they do is the result of chance. …

CRITO: … there are persons who are willing to get you out of prison at no great cost; and as for the informers, they are far from being exorbitant in their demands; a little money will satisfy them. My means, which are certainly ample, are at your service, and if you have a scruple about spending all mine, here are strangers who will give you the use of theirs. … Nor can I think that you are at all justified, Socrates, in betraying your own life when you might be saved; in acting thus you are playing into the hands of your enemies - who are hurrying on your destruction. And further I should say that you are deserting your own children, for you might bring them up and educate them; instead of which you go away, and leave them, and they will have to take their chances. … No man should bring children into the world who is unwilling to persevere to the end in their nurture and education. But you appear to be choosing the easier part, not the better and manlier, which would have been more becoming in one who professes to care for virtue. …

SOCRATES: Are we to say that we are never intentionally to do wrong, or that in one way we ought and in another way we ought not to do wrong, or is doing wrong always evil and dishonorable. ... Or, in spite of the opinion of the many, and in spite of consequences whether better or worse, shall we insist on the truth of what was then said, that injustice is always an evil and dishonor to him who acts unjustly? Shall we say so or not?

CRITO: Yes. …

SOCRATES: … Imagine … the laws and the government come and interrogate me: ‘Tell us, Socrates, they say; … are you not going by an act of yours to overturn us - the laws, and the whole state, as far as in you lies? Do you imagine that a state can subsist and not be overthrown, in which the decisions of law have no power, but are set aside and trampled upon by individuals?’ What will be our answer, Crito, to these and the like words? … Yes, but the state has injured us, and given an unjust sentence.’ Suppose I say that?

SOCRATES: Then the laws will say: ‘Consider, Socrates … having brought you into the world, nurtured, and educated you, and given you and every other citizen a share in every good which we had to give, we further proclaim to any Athenian by the liberty which we allow him, that if he does not like us when he has become of age and has seen the ways of the city, and made our acquaintance, he may go where he pleases, and take his goods with him. … But he who … still remains, has entered into an implied contract that he will do as we command him. And he who disobeys us is … wrong … because we are the authors of his education … because he has made an agreement with us that he will duly obey our commands, and he neither obeys them nor convinces us that our commands are unjust, and we … give him the alternative of obeying or convincing us; that is what we offer, and he does neither.

The Great Dialogues of Plato
 

 

Plato's dialogue the Apology is the trail and conviction of Socrates. In that dialogue, Socrates says that he would refuse to stop doing philosophy:

 

And therefore if you let me go now, and are not convinced by Anytus, ... and if I escape now, your sons will all be utterly ruined by listening to my words if you say to me, Socrates, this time we will not mind Anytus, and you shall be let off, but upon one condition, that you are not to enquire and speculate in this way any more, and that if you are caught doing so again, you shall die. If this was the condition on which you let me go, I should reply: Men of Athens, I honor and love you, but I shall obey God rather than you, and while I have life and strength I shall never cease from the practice and teaching of philosophy, exhorting any one whom I meet and saying to him after my manner: You, my friend, a citizen of the great and mighty and wise city of Athens, are you not ashamed of heaping up the greatest amount of money and honor and reputation, and caring so little about wisdom, truth, and the greatest improvement of the soul which you never regard or heed at all? And if the person with whom I am arguing says: Yes, but I do care; then I do not leave him or let him go at once, but I proceed to interrogate, examine, and cross-examine him, and if I think that he has no virtue in him, but only says that he has, I reproach him with undervaluing the greater - and overvaluing the less. And I shall repeat the same words to every one whom I meet, young and old, citizen and alien, but especially to the citizens, inasmuch as they are my brethren. For know that this is the command of God, and I believe that no greater good has ever happened in the state than my service to the God. For I do nothing but go about persuading you all, old and young alike, not to take thought for your persons or your properties, but first and chiefly to care about the greatest improvement of the soul. I tell you that virtue is not given by money, but that from virtue comes money and every other good of man - public as well as private. This is my teaching, and if this is the doctrine which corrupts the youth, I am a mischievous person. But if any one says that this is not my teaching, he is speaking an untruth. Wherefore, O men of Athens, I say to you, do as Anytus bids or not as Anytus bids, and either acquit me or not, but whichever you do, understand that I shall never alter my ways - not even if I have to die many times.

The Great Dialogues of Plato
 

 

The 1979 film, The Great Train Robbery, was directed and written by Michael Crichton. It was based on true events – and Crichton’s novel of the same name. The film starred Sean Connery, Donald Sutherland, and Lesley-Anne Down.  Here is part of the dialogue in the  court scene:

 

Pierce concluded his testimony on August 2nd. At that time, the prosecutor, aware that the public was perplexed by the master criminal's cool demeanor and absence of guilt, turned to a final line of inquiry.

"Mr. Pierce," said the prosecutor, rising to his full height, "Mr. Pierce, I put it to you directly: did you never feel, at any time, some sense of impropriety, some recognition of misconduct, some comprehension of unlawful behavings, some moral misgivings, in the performance of these various criminal acts?"

"I do not comprehend the question," Pierce said.

The prosecutor was reported to have laughed softly. "Yes, I suspect you do not; it is written all over you."

At this point, His Lordship cleared his throat and delivered the following speech from the bench:

"Sir," said the judge, "it is a recognized truth of jurisprudence that laws are created by men, and that civilized men, in a tradition of more than two millennia, agree to abide by these laws for the common good of society. For it is only by the rule of law that any civilization holds itself above the promiscuous squalor of barbarism. This we know from all the history of the human race, and this we pass on in our educational processes to all our citizens.

"Now, on the matter of motivation, sir, I ask you: why did you conceive, plan, and execute this dastardly and shocking crime?"

Pierce shrugged. "I wanted the money," he said.
 
 

When were the first written laws created? If you are wondering this, do a search on the internet. Open a search engine like Bing, Google, or Yahoo. I recommend Bing as Google keeps every search you ever do, and they sell the information. It can also be used against you in a court of law. To ask a question in a search engine, put a question mark at the end, so in Yahoo type:  When were the laws first created?

Here is the result:

Cognostic answered:
Even a troop of monkeys have laws. Written laws came with writing. Tribal laws with tribes and their customs. Family laws with small family groups? What do you mean when you use the word laws? There is probably not a social group on the planet where it is okay to kill a member of your own group. There are greeting customs, mating customs, and ritualistic grooming which can all be loosely interpreted as laws. Violate them and you could be removed from the group, attacked, or then killed by the group. In short, any species of animal that lives together is going to have "laws."

Marky answered:
I'm pretty sure the oldest written laws were Hammurabi's Code or the laws of Babylon.

Note:
You might now be wondering what Hammurabi's Code is about. In Bing type "Hammurabi's Code". The reason for the quotation marks is to limit your search to that order - with no words in-between. For example, if you want to find me on the internet, and you type John Chiappone, that will result in John Doe, and Lisa Chiappone.


 Martin Luther King, in "Letter from Birmingham Jail", argues against Socrates:

 

Just as Socrates felt that it was necessary to create a tension in the mind that individuals could rise from the bondage of myths and half truths to the unfettered realm of creative analysis and objective appraisal, so must we see the need for nonviolent gadflies to create the kind of tension in society that will help men rise from the dark depths of prejudice and racism to the majestic heights of understanding and brotherhood. ...

... "How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?" The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that "an unjust law is no law at all."

... How does one determine whether a law is just or unjust? A just law is a man made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God. An unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law. To put it in the terms of St. Thomas Aquinas: An unjust law is a human law that is not rooted in eternal law and natural law. Any law that uplifts human personality is just. Any law that degrades human personality is unjust. All segregation statutes are unjust because segregation distorts the soul and damages the personality. It gives the segregator a false sense of superiority and the segregated a false sense of inferiority.

 

  
   Read, Explain, and Debate.
  
Collaborate

Form groups of 3-4 students. Each group reads one of the above readings, and debates its meaning, and explain it to the other groups.


THRASYMACHUS

Republic by Plato

Political/Ethical Abstract

The # Represents Stephanas numbers from the Platonic Dialogues.

What is Justice?

 

1.  Injury makes men unjust (#335).

2.  Justice is giving one's due (#335e).

    

Main Ideas Advanced by Thrasymachus

1.     Justice is the interest of the strong - the golden rule.  (#338     
        - He who has the most gold makes all the rules.

2.     To be just is to obey the laws of those in power.

       - Injustice is advantageous (#343) - Gyge's ring (#359).

        JRR Tolken


Socrates' Response

        Counter-examples:

1.     Rulers sometimes err.

2.     The powerful can make laws that are not in their interest.

3.     To obey those laws is not in the interest of the strong; 

         therefore

4.     To be just is to do what is, and is not, in the interest of the strong.

5. Friends can be unjust to each other.

6. The Sophists contradict themselves; they say there are no objective truths. Truth is relative, and all opinions are equal. At the same time they say that their position is better and true.

Further Readings:
Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes

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